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   1 # Pokemon GO PVP Teams
   2
   3 This page lists teams used by editors of this wiki to play ranked PVP
   4   matches on _Pokémon GO_{as=cite}.
   5 In PoGO, the ranked ladder resets with the game-wide 90-day seasons,
   6   at which point balance changes are introduced.
   7
   8 It is overwhelmingly likely that [][@:Aescling] will be the only ever
   9   contributor to this page.
  10
  11 ## Timeless Travels
  12
  13 {as=section lang=en-X-catspeak}
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  15
  16 ### [][@:Aescling]
  17
  18 at some point during timeless travels i began to build to build
  19   (reasonably) viable mons fur pvp and made a concerted effurt to climb
  20   the ladder.
  21 at time of writing, {% 2022-02-18 %}
  22   with less than two weeks remaining in the season,
  23   i am at 2200+ ELO, solidly in the ace ranking.
  24 (fur comparison, the highest ranking of legend requires 3000 ELO; my
  25   current ranking is hardly a great accomplishment.)
  26
  27 #### _DYTSMBaL?_{as=cite}
  28
  29 {as=details}
  30 ::::::::::::
  31 {as=summary}
  32 teamsheet
  33
  34 * Death Charm (Alolan Ninetails) \
  35   11/15/11 (rank 731/4096) \
  36   Charm, Weather Ball, Psyshock
  37 * Snampy (Froslass) \
  38   5/14/14 (rank 472/4096) \
  39   Powder Snow, Avalanche, Shadow Ball
  40 * [Shadow][HNISILU]{title="external Twitter link"} (Umbreon) \
  41   0/15/14 (rank 2/4096) \
  42   Snarl, Foul Play, Last Resort
  43 ::::::::::::
  44
  45 the furst team i built fur pvp with (reasonably) viable mons, whose use
  46   began during one of the limited cups.
  47 the team has something of an anti-synergy; charm alolan ninetails generally
  48   sacrifices shields to take switch advantage with its very heavy fast move
  49   purressure, but froslass is so glassy you either need to lead or save
  50   shields to sweep with it in the back.
  51 umbreon is used as a basic and simple safe swap, as always.
  52
  53 #### _GLemix_{as=cite}
  54
  55 {as=details}
  56 ::::::::::::
  57 {as=summary}
  58 teamsheet
  59
  60 * Mini Beast (Ninetails) \
  61   11/15/11 (rank 731/4096) \
  62   Charm, Weather Ball, Psyshock
  63 * Snampy (Froslass) \
  64   5/14/14 (rank 472/4096) \
  65   Powder Snow, Avalanche, Shadow Ball
  66 * Divebomb (Decidueye) \
  67   0/14/13 (rank 767/4096) \
  68   Leafage, Frenzy Plant, Brave Bird
  69 ::::::::::::
  70
  71 a team built fur the Great League remix cup, which ran just after the
  72   rowlet commewnity day.
  73 decidueye is not a purrticularly excellent mon but obtaining shield
  74   advantage allows it threaten to sweep in the back with brave birds.
  75 of course, this is not a fantastic synergy with froslass, leaving the
  76   team lacking in a safe swap and double weak to dark and ghost.
  77 one small benefit this team had thanks to rowlet learning spirit
  78   shackle on evolution during commewnity day was that many players in
  79   low ELO (i was well below ace rank at the time) were completely
  80   caught off guard by brave bird, even thuogh
  81   [PvPoke][PvPoke] recommends the moveset.
  82
  83 #### _Meta-ish_{as=cite}
  84
  85 {as=details}
  86 ::::::::::::
  87 {as=summary}
  88 teamsheet
  89
  90 * Sparksblub (Lanturn) \
  91   5/15/12 (rank 68/4096) \
  92   Spark, Surf, Thunderbolt
  93 * Shadow (Umbreon) \
  94   0/15/14 (rank 2/4096) \
  95   Snarl, Foul Play, Last Resort
  96 * Mini Beast (Ninetails) \
  97   11/15/11 (rank 731/4096) \
  98   Charm, Weather Ball, Psyshock
  99 ::::::::::::
 100
 101 despite a very obvious double weakness to the :U+201C:mudboys:U+201D:
 102   (that is, water/ground dual types) that had become very common in the
 103   open great league, i managed to climb to ace rank with this team.
 104 lanturn frankly hard carried this team; a bulky lead that counters a
 105   water-heavy meta (except fur mud) and the ever-strong safe swap in
 106   umbreon (even given the heavy purresence of counter users) gives the
 107   team more than enough bulk to work around purroblematic matchups to
 108   some extent.
 109
 110 i frankly somewhat doubt the fact that lanturn is ranked so highly in
 111   the open great league on PvPoke, as ground types are so common
 112   lately.
 113 that said, its obvious strength cannot be denied; it is almost like
 114   simply using actually good mons makes it much easier to climb the
 115   ladder.
 116
 117 #### _Meta-ish MBCed_{as=cite}
 118
 119 {as=details}
 120 ::::::::::::
 121 {as=summary}
 122 teamsheet
 123
 124 * Sparksblub (Lanturn) \
 125   5/15/12 (rank 68/4096) \
 126   Spark, Surf, Thunderbolt
 127 * Shadow (Umbreon) \
 128   0/15/14 (rank 2/4096) \
 129   Snarl, Foul Play, Last Resort
 130 * Snampy (Froslass) \
 131   5/14/14 (rank 472/4096) \
 132   Powder Snow, Avalanche, Shadow Ball
 133 ::::::::::::
 134
 135 replacing ninetails my beloved with froslass helps this team
 136   substantially, giving it some (if not always excellent) play against
 137   dragon and ground, while dropping the double weakness to mud.
 138 the big challenge of running this team is that lanturn and umbreon
 139   do not consistently purressure shields enough to suppurt a glass
 140   cannon in the back, having led to many games where froslass proves
 141   too frail to clutch a win at the end of an even game, even with type
 142   advantage.
 143 notably, this team seems to be buffed by the current catch cup meta,
 144   which has removed most steel types and greatly increased the
 145   purresence of dragons (thanks to the recent lunar new year event).
 146
 147 a funny gimmicky interaction that i have had multiple times on this
 148   team, and one that instantly wins the lead when it happens, is made
 149   pawsible when the opponent leads annihilape (which is popular at the
 150   moment at my pussition in ladder).
 151 most players seem committed to throwing shadow ball on alignment (which
 152   happens to line up with exactly when lanturn charges up thunderbolt);
 153   annihilape users generally do not respect surf (which is reasonable)
 154   and therefore eat the damage, and then allow their shadow balls to be
 155   caught on umbreon, instantly losing the lead and often forcing a
 156   switch.
 157 because it is not terribly useful to pair a counter to dark with a
 158   counter user (that already beats umbreon, but only slighly), the
 159   result is usually advantageous.
 160 this is hardly an excellent play, but it is very funny that i have
 161   pulled it as many times as i have, to the extent that i now actively
 162   look out fur the oppurrtunity.
 163
 164 ##### _Meta-ish MBCed_{as=cite}: closing thoughts
 165
 166 on the friday just befur the sinnoh tour weekend, just over a week
 167   befur the close of the season, yr cat just barely crossed the
 168   2500 elo threshold of veteran rank.
 169 i have stopped making a concerted effurt towards laddering (even as
 170   stardust rewards are still boosted fur the remaining week of the
 171   season, which is a shame to miss out on), and i would like to
 172   purresent some closing extra thoughts on the team and my skills as
 173   a player
 174
 175 i find it interesting that i managed to ladder so far---at least 700
 176   elo---with a lanturn/umbreon core; both mons are absol-utely strong
 177   in the great league but it is not exactly an obvious pairing, since
 178   umbreon does nothing to deal with lanturn:U+2019:s ground weakness.
 179   (again, grass is currently uncommon enough to mostly ignore.)
 180 it is not lost on me that my push to veteran did involve covering
 181   ground, even if not with the most obvious choice of skarmory, who
 182   i do not have (with great league stats, at least)
 183
 184 i think of the significant changes i made that allowed me to reach
 185   veteran was a reevaluation of how to play froslass.
 186 while it *is* true that froslass heavily benefits from shield (or
 187   energy) advantage, sometimes it is still the best play to bring it
 188   out even in two shield scenarios (though this must be done
 189   decisively; froslass gets destroyed by minor energy disadvantages.)
 190 i found myself :U+201C:safe switching:U+201D: against mud boys very
 191   often; against whiscash (who is often left in) this play will
 192   actually usually force the oppenent to give up their shields
 193   (especially as i lead a good mon hard countered by ground.)
 194 (umbreon is a losing switch into whiscash if a scald burn ever
 195   happens, and that usually does happen)
 196
 197 a consistent weakness i have recognized in my play while laddering
 198   to veteran is my poor sense of alignment: i often recognize
 199   situations where i have a hard counter to one or more mons in the
 200   opposing team, but have many times failed to force the team to
 201   have to deal with the disadvantage by giving up switch.
 202 similarly, i have forced myself into bad matchups in many situations
 203   by switching aggressively to purrevent energy disanvantages, which
 204   i really should have learned better than to do a long time ago.
 205 so it goes.
 206
 207 i am not sure what the next season will look like fur me, what with
 208   any pawtential balance changes and a general lack of extra mons to
 209   play with.
 210 i do have an rank 9 lickitung i intend to build eventually, as well
 211   as a rank 40 (non-shadow) dragonair, as well as a reasonably good
 212   chargabug and (eventually) azumarill; and, of course, the cresselia
 213   from the road to sinnoh raid challenge (who i would like to trade
 214   fur better IVs).
 215 but it is not immediately clear to me that i have mons that would
 216   solve my current purroblems when it comes to overall teambuilding.
 217 i also do not have much stardust left to build mons with either, not
 218   to mention elite TMs
 219 time will tell what the future hath in store, i suppose!
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 222
 223 [PvPoke]:
 224   https://pvpoke.com
 225 [HNISILU]:
 226   https://twitter.com/LuxxArt/status/1731524063787438207